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Ok, as I've said many times before, I still don't know who I'm supporting yet.  That being said, I'm all for facts being brought out appropriately, in the correct context, without all of the crap.  So I found this article on Anderson Cooper's blog at CNN, written by Roland Martin.  I think it's worth a read to get a better picture of some of the things that this preacher said.  I'm not defending anyone, but to be fair, I think it's appropriate to research and get the whole picture of something instead of taking someone's (especially the media's) word on anything.  I know that Martin is part of the media, but just add this to your thinking when mulling this over.  I've pasted the article in.  Here is the link in case it all doesn't get pasted.  http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-b
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The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s 9/11 sermon Posted: 10:09 AM ET

As this whole sordid episode regarding the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has played out over the last week, I wanted to understand what he ACTUALLY said in this speech. I’ve been saying all week on CNN that context is important, and I just wanted to know what the heck is going on.

I have now actually listened to the sermon Rev. Wright gave after September 11 titled, “The Day of Jerusalem’s Fall.” It was delivered on Sept. 16, 2001.

ALT TEXT

One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned “chickens coming home to roost.” He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation.

He was quoting Peck as saying that America’s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:

“We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

“We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

“We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

“We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

“We bombed Qaddafi’s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against the rock.

“We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they’d never get back home.

“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.

“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y’all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don’t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.”

He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

“What is the state of your family?” he asked.

And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.

His sermon thesis:

1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.

2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they won’t put me on PBS or national cable for what I’m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)

“We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,” he said.

Wright then said we can’t stop messing over people and thinking they can’t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.

“Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”

3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.

By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said “God damn America.” I’m not sure which sermon that came from.

This doesn’t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.

The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

I am also listening to the other sermons delivered by Rev. Wright that have been the subject of controversy.

And let me be clear: Where I believe he was wrong and not justified in what he said based upon the facts, I will say so. But where the facts support his argument, that will also be said.

So stay tuned.

- Roland S. Martin, CNN Contributor

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kdubken read my blog view my photos
Mar 21, 2008 | 11:25 AM

Dang!! there are more lies in that sermon than I thought.

SeniorCitizen view my photos
Mar 21, 2008 | 1:01 PM

If this was for Hillary - her head would be served on a platter and she would no longer be a Senator of New York - Sharpton and Jackson would see to that - but you sure do not see them now - by the way Sharpton meets/talks with Obama at least three times a week - that would tell you something.

bubba-right-wing read my blog view my photos
Mar 21, 2008 | 2:00 PM

This comment rings true, weather a Republican or Democrat. Listen to all the comments and explanations from all the characters involved in this latest episode and it proves the black people have not changed. The hatred and anger they feel for the USA because of slavery and civil rights will never end. Even in their religion it is acceptable and justifiable to continue preaching this hatred. The black culture never prospered as a people. Check statistics, they show they are not productive as a people and lack respect for human life. As a Republican, my America only needs to give its people opportunities to prosper and not FREE programs.
PS: 35,000 Bosnians settled in South Saint Louis in the 1990s. They took over an area that was in total decay called Bevo Mill. This area is now an excellent example of hard working community minded people. Clean and thriving with people and business and excellent housing because of them. ALMOST NONE OF THE IMMIGRANTS ARE ON WELFARE. VOTE REPUBLICAN NO FREE HEALTHCARE FOR NON WORKERS

bubba-right-wing read my blog view my photos
Mar 21, 2008 | 2:14 PM

OK now from the real me. Democrats really %#$%^& up. Both BO & Billery are going to go down in flames because they will FIGHT and rip and claw each other to death till the end of the CNC. (Communist National Convention). Look how good my boy Johnny is doing now and he has not even begun to FIGHT. Thank You

AMOM read my blog
Mar 21, 2008 | 3:01 PM

To start with, I am tired of hearing about slavery. The African people rounded up their own people and sold them to slave-traders.

They have their own to blame. But, if they did not like living here, they should go back to their native country and try to fix it.

AMOM read my blog
Mar 21, 2008 | 3:03 PM

Also, instead of hating white rich men, they should try to take them as an example of how to live and get money.

Don't ever say that you hate white rich men, their taxes is what has supported you.

Snap out of it, all who believe Wright.

Who paid for Wright's education???????

bubba-right-wing read my blog view my photos
Mar 21, 2008 | 9:04 PM

Sorry, just making my rounds. VOTE REPUBLICAN

AMOM read my blog
Mar 23, 2008 | 11:34 AM

I think that Wright is about one/half to two/thirds white.

Would that make him hate white people. White bash/ teach raciest ideas inside a CHURCH.

He should think, "Wonder how God would rate his opinions."

Actually, I wonder how many black churches are preaching terror ideas.

How many of their congregations is actually believing them.

jimbobbob read my blog
Mar 23, 2008 | 6:10 PM

I believe that wright's comments are more typical, than we wish to believe in black churches throughout America. Anger and hate-mongering only drags your race down. Obviously there are people of color, that do very well in this country, but the African American community lack positive leaders, to help improve their standing economically.

Pig-snoot read my blog
Mar 24, 2008 | 9:34 PM

Jimbob...They only pay attention to the hate mongers!

They don't like good people like Condy Rice or Colin Powell. They call them uncle toms or "sell outs".

That's one of the reasons why they will never make it in this society.

Somebody has to say it!

Pig-snoot read my blog
Mar 24, 2008 | 9:40 PM

Mr Martin and CNN are liberals...What do you think they are going to say? They dance around the truth all the time.

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